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An Interview with Anne Simpson

Tuesday, February 23rd, 2010

When I met Anne Simpson in 2008 at the Vancouver International Writers Festival, she mentioned to me that she was working on a book of essays. So when a chance to review the book presented itself, I was delighted. (My review is here, at Prairie Fire.) The Marram Grass is a deeply thoughtful and richly textured book - both metaphorically, and literally, thanks to Gaspereau’s beautiful design. Here are some of Anne’s thoughts on writing it.

Q: You’re well-known as a poet and novelist; The Marram Grass is your first book of essays. What attracted you to the form? What, in particular, distinguishes the essay, as a genre, for you? What can it offer to a writer, and to readers?

A: I had questions that I kept circling around, and these questions were complex, and layered with other things that interested me, which is also how my poetry works, I think. To answer the questions, I had to find a way to ground myself, literally, by using the ground of the places near where I live.

And I don’t know if I was attracted to the form of the essay: it was more that the form chose me. And then it invited me to move around, so I could explore various avenues. But I don’t know if I understand what distinguishes the essay. Everyone who writes an essay reveals something different; its magic is that it is so flexible a form. A person can fool around within it.

But all I know is that my questions wouldn’t leave me alone—and, of course, I’m not done with the questions just because I finished the book. The curious thing is that I didn’t structure this book: I didn’t have an idea that one essay would lead to another essay. It was as if the questions kept leading me and leading me, until, finally, I came to the issue of empathy at the end. Every writer comes to this idea, I think, in one way or another. What I didn’t know is that the book was forming itself unbeknownst to me, and that, in fact, this was exactly where it was supposed to end up. The book opened out into the idea of community.

What can the essay offer to a reader? Well, I don’t know, exactly, but I know the writing of an essay is a way of thinking something through, and so the reading of an essay must be a similar process. However the writer expresses his or her ideas in an essay, it is an invitation to the reader to accompany the writer. It’s the beginning of a conversation.

Q: The range of reference in these essays is extremely wide and rich. Can you tell us something about the reading you did? Was it different from or similar to the kind of reading you do when you’re writing poetry or fiction?

A: The reading for this book was very different than it has been for other books I’ve written. When I do research for fiction or poetry, I’m something of a scavenger (I need to know one or two things and go back to writing, and then I surface again, and find out another couple of things, and so on). In the case of Marram Grass, I not only read widely to try to figure out my answers, which were never really answers, I also audited a course – one term in length – through which I could study the philosophy of Emmanuel Levinas. At a deeper level, though, I was still living with questions that had come up in two colloquia held at St. Peter’s Abbey in Saskatchewan – on Nature Writing and Wilderness Thought – in which I’d participated. Because the conversations had been so deep and thoughtful in those colloquia, I wanted to respond in kind.

I think if I write another such book – possibly one on creative communities – I may not include as many references to secondary sources. But this book simply voiced itself this way.

Q: The essays in The Marram Grass frequently juxtapose concrete descriptions of nature against more abstract passages of philosophical speculation. Reading them, I felt invited to participate in a sort of balancing that reinforced the central premise of the book – that metaphor schools us in the ability to hover between apparent binaries, to tolerate ambiguity and the unresolved, and in doing so, to deepen our understanding of “the other.” Thoughts?

A: I know I do this in my long poems: I have to move between one thing and another, and this oscillation is the way I find out what I’m trying to say. So, too, with Marram Grass, I guess.

And I’ve been influenced by Jan Zwicky’s Wisdom & Metaphor. The very form of her book is married to its content. Throughout that book, the left page of the text poses a challenge to the right page of the text. It’s not that the right page answers to the left page, it’s that meaning springs between the pages as the reader reads. Zwicky is actually giving evidence of the metaphor at work. But I didn’t know I had done something similar until you asked me this question.

I think that I also wanted to show that the operation of metaphor reflects the possible, and that this can indeed operate in the world: we can open our imaginations, foster empathy, and develop and enrich community. So I wanted to move back and forth between fiction and reality, as in the essay, “The Dark Side of Fiction’s Moon,” in order to reveal this.

Q: The line drawings in the book are fresh and lovely. For me, they echoed and reinforced its arguments and are integral to the whole. At what point did you decide to include them?

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A: I suggested to Andrew Steeves, one of the publishers at Gaspereau Press, that I could do some drawings back at the beginning of this project. Then I promptly forgot that I had to deliver! So while I had some of the drawings in a little sketch book from times that I’d been away – at the Elizabeth Bishop House in Great Village, NS, for instance – I had to scurry around and do some more right sketches at the last minute. It was a challenge. But Gaspereau is such a wonderful small press: they do a brilliant job of solving design issues, like the incorporation of the drawings with the text.

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Q: Who were your inspirations or models for this book (if you had inspirations)? What essayists do you admire?

A: Actually, some of them are Gaspereau Press writers. I’ve mentioned Jan Zwicky. And, of course, Don McKay’s essays are very fine. Tim Lilburn. Anne Carson. Robert Bringhurst. Trevor Herriot. I could go on…

Q: What was the biggest challenge in completing the book?

A: Writing to a deadline is always a big challenge for me. Thinking doesn’t fit a schedule. On the other hand, I usually work to a deadline quite well; something about the pressure seems to help me finish a manuscript.

Q: What was the biggest reward?

A: I wrote this book as a kind of homage to my adopted province of Nova Scotia. It has been home for me and for my family, for over twenty years. So it was a labour of love.

Q: What are you reading now?

A: I just finished Half of a Yellow Sun, a novel by Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie. And I’ve been dipping into Averno, by Louise Glück, along with How to Read a Poem, by Edward Hirsch. I’ve also been doing a little research for a new novel, so I’m reading Les Stroud’s Survive! Essential Skills and Tactics to Get You Out of Anywhere – Alive. I’m never entirely happy unless I have a novel, a book of non-fiction, and a couple of poetry collections on the bedside table.

Q: What is your next project?

A: A novel. But oh—the projects I’d like to do! I think writers all need about nine lives, don’t you?

A winner of the 2004 Griffin Poetry Prize for her second poetry collection, Loop, Anne Simpson has also been nominated for the Governor-General’s Award.  Four of her six books have been selected as Globe & Mail Best Books.  Her second novel, Falling, won the Dartmouth Fiction Award and was longlisted for the IMPAC Dublic Literary Award.  She teaches part-time at St. Francis Xavier University in Antigonish, NS.

Interview at All Things Said and Done

Wednesday, January 13th, 2010

Today, poet Marita Daschel interviews me about writing and motherhood at her blog, All Things Said and Done.

An Interview with rob mclennan

Tuesday, December 1st, 2009

rob mclennan has probably done more to put Ottawa on the literary map than anyone else alive. He writes poetry, fiction, creative nonfiction and literary essays; his clever blog attracts hundreds of readers each week. All this, and he’s also a walking, talking archive of Canadian literature and a tireless promoter of other writers’ work. rob may be best known for his poetry, but today, December 1, he launches his second novel, missing persons. In addition, rob’s currently engaged in two intriguing nonfiction projects. In the selections of these I’ve seen I’m particularly interested in the ways he puts literary history to work, using little-known or sometimes well-known details as springboards for further exploration, looking at place through the lens of its literary past. These manuscripts continue and extend his experimentation in poetry and fiction. I spoke with rob by email between November 5th and 7th, 2009.

Q: You’re an incredibly prolific writer who seems to cross genres with ease. Is it as easy as you make it look? Does one genre feel most “natural” to you than others? What are the challenges?

A: Well, I’d hardly call it easy; my self-education process is both extremely quick and excruciatingly slow. I learn by fumbling around, in not knowing what it is that I’m doing. Like bpNichol working the presses at Coach House Printing, figuring out what do to by not knowing, and exploring the boundaries. The obvious drawback is that the short term becomes more frustrating, but hopefully the longer term becomes richer, deeper. I don’t want to write books that look like everyone else’s.

Before my first novel appeared in print, I’d been over a decade attempting fiction, with numerous manuscripts in various stages of completion, including a few already abandoned. For any genre I work in, it seems, I need a book to fail, before I figure out the process for anything subsequent; I learn by doing. Fail better, said Beckett. Perhaps I should be listening better to this. perhaps I need a larger failure before what follows can transcend itself.

Part of what took me forever into the novel form was figuring out the shape of my own style, after attempts into what I thought a “novel” was supposed to look like. Remember Jack Kerouac’s first published novel? It was completely different from what came after; that first book written, it would seem, in the style he thought a novel was supposed to.

When I was still a teen, I worked in multiples, writing poetry and fiction, playing piano and guitar, drawing, painting and taking photographs. I even attempted a comic book script at one point. My interests have always been multiple, diverse yet frustratingly separate. Part of what I’ve long admired about 1990s English-speaking literary Montreal was the way the younger writers like Corey Frost, Anne Stone, Dana Bath and Catherine Kidd were blending and blurring poetry, fiction and performance, one slipping easily and seamlessly into the next (and almost even a matter of context). It’s what I find fascinating about Vancouver writer Michael Turner as well, exploring alternate shapes of a literary work. Why do these genres have to have such solid barriers between them? Who gets to decide such a thing?

It appears as though Canadian writing is one of the harshest climates, in terms of the barriers between these arbitrary notions of genre, yet we’ve produced some of the most daring when it comes to breaking those same barriers down, including Erín Moure, Phil Hall, Ken Sparling, Sheila Watson, Elizabeth Smart, Nathalie Stephens, Michael Turner, Nicole Brossard, and so many others.

Obviously I’m far more interested in lyric prose, so the form of fiction I’m working is closer to poetry than certain straighter and more narrative kinds of fiction, deceptively called the “poet’s novel” (a term I find needlessly dismissive, without really being descriptive). Whatever else their poems were doing, Elizabeth Smart and Sheila Watson were writing wonderfully lyric books of prose. One does not automatically fall into the other (Smart’s poems, for example, seemed quite traditional, compared to her prose).

My current prose fiction works to explore moments, slowly working out the threads between those moments, and projects that end up weaving a sequence of threads into a particular weave, somewhere between complicated and straightforward. Does that even make sense?

Perhaps, as you ask, not with ease, but with patience over quite a long period.

Q: You’ve currently got (at least) two memoir projects on the go: house, a (tiny) memoir and Sleeping in Toronto. What sparked your desire to write memoir? What are the special joys and challenges of this genre for a writer? For a reader?

A: As far as non-fiction goes, there is a merging of essay, history and memoir I’ve been exploring through projects such as McLennan, Alberta (my Edmonton year as writer-in-residence at the University of Alberta) and current Sleeping in Toronto.

Years ago, maybe a decade or so, I started a similar project on my home territory, Glengarry County, eastern Ontario, wanting to mix a memoir of sorts with writing done on the area, as well as working through the county’s rich history. Glengarry County is well documented in poetry and fiction, going back well over a century, including “Ralph Connor” (pseudonym of the Rev. Charles Gordon), who was Canada’s bestselling novelist circa 1900, and his aunt, Margaret M. Robertson, writing novels from the 1860s to the 1880s (Connor’s mother and aunt were classmates of Emily Dickinson at Mount Holyoke College, South Hadley, Mass.). Being that my family grew out of the Gordon Church, St. Elmo, a building created under the auspices of Rev. Gordon’s own father, writing became geographically local for me at quite a young age; when I was about ten years old, my father pointing out where various scenes of Glengarry School Days (1902), for example, were set.

I got fifty pages into such a project well before I knew what the hell “creative non-fiction” even was, and the whole manuscript, Reading and Writing Glengarry County (I really need to revisit that title) just felt unwieldly, so I set it aside to return to, later. Heading west in September 2007 and discovering the work of Edmonton writer Myrna Kostash, it was as though simply by existing, she was giving me permission to move into what I had already begun, these forays into “creative non-fiction,” without knowing a shape or understanding the genre. From Kostash, I headed into some other directions, rereading early Elizabeth Hay, and into the non-fiction works of Ted Bishop, Guy Maddin, Monica Kidd, Stan Dragland, Sarah de Leeuw and Brian Fawcett, exploring some of the possibilities of what the form could provide.

I’ve long been interested in the idea of memoir, but uncomfortable with writing a story that’s all about me. I can’t imagine finding anything about me interesting enough to sustain such a project, and much prefer the movement of the creative non-fiction form, exploring a particular idea or geography through its writing and history, using the memoir as its framing, the bare thread that ties the project together.

Once west, I started a project of creative non-fiction, McLennan, Alberta, to explore my nine months in Edmonton, trying to figure out the context in which I’d entered (the project got its name from a town north of the city, which may have been named after a doctor from my Glengarry County who worked for the railroad, Dr. John K. McLennan). After thirty-seven eastern Ontario years, what did it mean to be in Alberta? Over nine months, I wrote pieces centred around the Banff Centre, Whyte Avenue, the University of Alberta and the West Edmonton Mall, exploring the histories and myths of the place, and writing by such as Elizabeth Smart, Sheila Watson, Robert Kroetsch, Eli Mandel, Aritha van Herk, Kristjana Gunnars, Douglas Barbour, Erin Knight, Christine Stewart and Trisia Eddy.

The book even writes of the beginnings of a new relationship, which turned the manuscript into another kind of project, another kind of thread woven in. I admit, I still haven’t decided if the manuscript as a whole even works (I plan on returning to it soon, to complete it, finally), but now that she’s in Toronto doing a Master’s Degree, I’m here too, as much as she’ll let me, making Sleeping in Toronto a loose sequel, writing out what comes next, through the exploration of a brand-new city.

Q: In house: a (tiny) memoir, you’re working from old family photographs, using visual records to piece together what you remember – and don’t remember – of the past. Tell us something about that process.

A: I’d been thinking quite a while on writing from old pictures, and somehow, this project came together during my Edmonton year. What is it about going away that makes you think back to home? It must have been Christmas, heading back to the farm and pilfering that old photo album, getting back to Alberta and picking away at it during the first few weeks of January. I’m hoping the project, once published, can appear with one picture per text, if possible. In many ways, house: a (tiny) memoir was my attempt to reclaim the good parts of my childhood, before my mother got really sick. From the mid-1970s all throughout the 80s were pretty rough, and I know there are stories that, unless I tell, would never be told. Ones my sister (b. 1976) wouldn’t know, or her kids, or mine. It’s a tribute and acknowledgement to a period of time that existed, and my family tells few stories, so would disappear completely, otherwise.

It is a strange process, to work through one’s own history, and one’s own memories. I’m hesitant to check information from my family, to potentially taint or second-guess what I think I know from my own memories, although wonder if the project requires such, once it’s further along. My mother claimed surprise a couple of years ago at some of the things I remember, vivid memories of her mother’s cabin in Quebec, sold by the time I was two and a half. And yet, nothing of my grandfather, who died around the same time. The challenge, really, is to write these pieces in such a way that a potential reader might care to read them. Why should a reader care?

Q: Sleeping in Toronto is in its early stages, but so far, it appears to be constructed in journal-like installments (written during, or of, your visits to Toronto) that don’t entirely resemble journal entries. It’s a voyage around, through, and into Toronto, beginning with a bird’s eye (condo) view of the lake, finding its feet on the Island and waterfront, and then travelling, by way of history, to points west, east, and north, and through poetry – yours and others’ – aiming deeper into the city’s mythologies. It’s memoir in the sense that the narrator’s experience provides a point of departure – but it’s less about the narrator than it is about the narrator’s attempts to understand the place. Thoughts?

A: Sleeping in Toronto starts in her condo by the lakeshore, and then works its way out, which, as I learned into the process, is how the city itself got created, so I really appreciate the happy accident of such. I’d much rather a book about learning Toronto than about me in Toronto. When travelling to any place, it’s impossible not to be aware of myths, thinking of Ernest Hemingway when seeing the Toronto Star building, or Daniel Jones when seeing the CN Tower. How could you not? Alberta was thick with that, the mythology of the landscape. I would like to learn where I am, and where I am headed. My own Glengarry County is rife with history too, to the point, sometimes, that it has almost no present (a joke from my 1980s high school days was that Alexandria had just entered the 1950’s).

Is my creative non-fiction working to understand place, understand history, and my fiction working to understand story, and people? Perhaps I’m reading too much into myself.

Q: Do you ever adapt the same material for poem (or fiction) and nonfiction?

A: No. I might work around different aspects of themes or ideas in a different form, but never the same material. That said, I’ve put a poem or two of my own into the creative non-fiction, but only inserted as self-quotation. To illustrate a point.

Q: You’ve written many literary essays (and Sleeping in Toronto includes entries that are mini-essays about poetry). What do you like about the essay form?

A: I like the essay because it’s entirely malleable; I enjoy working the form. My essay on Anne Carson looks entirely different than, say, my essay on Phil Hall, or Andrew Suknaski. I like forming the shape based on the subject. My essay on Suknaski took the shape of a series of open letters to him directly, which is how many of his own essays and reviews were written, writing directly to Eli Mandel, for example, or Robert Kroetsch. I would like to think it adds another level of stepping inside an author and their works to write further into such shapes. It seems rather arbitrary, somehow, to write every essay solely in the same singular shape. Arbitrary, and somehow lacking. I mean, I’m not an academic, so there would be something insincere in any attempt to write purely academic pieces. It’s also a form I know I don’t understand, so why not go somewhere else, make the process more interesting?

Look at Phil Hall’s “Essay on Purdy” from An Oak Hunch (2005), or Michael McClure’s essay on Richard Brautigan in Richard Brautigan: Essays on the Writing and Life (2006), moving the form around to suit their subjects. Art, including fiction, poetry and non-fiction, is supposed to be fluid, not static. I’m not interested in writing everything out the same way.

Perhaps there is a sense of freedom here I’ve managed that I haven’t quite yet in my poetry or fiction, who knows. But I am still exploring.

Q: Who are some of your favourite writers of nonfiction, and why?

A: Apart from the list of authors I’ve already given ( I haven’t gone through as much as I should have), I quite liked Robert Kroetsch’s book on Alberta, and Jonathan Lethem’s The Disappointment Artist. Can we call Dany Laferriere’s books novels or novel-essays? Or what of David W. McFadden’s “Great Lakes Suite”? As far as literary essays, Aritha van Herk and George Bowering have always made the form far more engaging, blending in parts of fiction along the way, or even memoir. Sly traces, one might say. I remember Clint Burnham had some really engaging essays in the mid-1990s out of Vancouver’s old Boo magazine; why haven’t they been collected yet into a single volume?

Q: What would you tell aspiring writers to read?

A: Everything. Read as much as possible and as widely as possible. And every so often, make a point of reading something you know you disagree with; there are still things to be learned.

Q: What are you reading now?

A: I always have a mound of things I’m carrying around, actively or passively reading over various stretches of time, but here is a list of sorts, in no particular order: Hemingway on Fishing, ed. Nick Lyons (New York NY: The Lyons Press, 2000), Peter & Max: A Fables Novel, Bill Willingham (New York NY: DC Comics / Vertigo, 2009), Stitches, a memoir, David Small (Toronto ON: McClelland & Stewart, 2009), Hush Up and Listen Stinky Poo Butt, Ken Sparling (Toronto ON: self-made by author upon request, 1996), Excerpts from the Real World, Robert Kroetsch (Lantzville BC: Oolichan Books, 1986), declining america, rob budde (Toronto ON: BookThug, 2009), Prismatic Publics: Innovative Canadian Women’s Poetry and Poetics, eds. Kate Eichhorn and Heather Milne (Toronto ON: Coach House Books, 2009), The False Laws of Narrative: The Poetry of Fred Wah, ed. Louis Cabri (Waterloo ON: Wilfrid Laurier University Press, 2009), Toronto: The Unknown City, Howard Ackler and Sarah B. Hood (Vancouver BC: Arsenal Pulp Press, 2003), Barcelona, Robert Hughes (New York NY: Knopf, 1992), Once Upon a Hill: Love in Troubled Times, Glenn Patterson (London UK: Bloomsbury Publishing, 2009), Quarter Life Crisis: Only the Good Die Yung, Evan Munday (Toronto ON: self-published, 2009), My Beloved Wager: Essays from a Writing Practice, Erín Moure (Edmonton AB: NeWest Press, 2009), and Translating Montreal: Episodes in the Life of a Divided City, Sherry Simon (Montreal QC: McGill-Queen’s University Press, 2006).

Born on the Ides of March in Ottawa’s Parkdale neighbourhood in 1970, rob mclennan is an Ottawa-based writer, editor and publisher, and author of more than twenty titles of poetry, fiction and non-fiction in Canada, Ireland, England and the United States, with work appearing in over two hundred journals in fourteen countries. He has published a travel book on Ottawa (Ottawa: The Unknown City) and a collection of literary essays (subverting the lyric: essays). More recently, his second novel is missing persons (The Mercury Press), launches in Toronto on December 1, 2009, and his eighteenth poetry collection, wild horses (University of Alberta Press), is due out in February 2010. He spent the 2007-8 academic year as writer in residence at the University of Alberta in Edmonton, and blogs regularly at robmclennan.blogspot.com.

An Interview with Andrew Westoll

Monday, November 23rd, 2009

I met Andrew Westoll at UBC, but already knew his writing from Event, where he was a winner in the journal’s annual creative nonfiction contest in 2003. That piece eventually grew into his first book, The River Bones, which describes the five months he spent travelling in the rainforests of Suriname in search of the rare blue frog called okopipi. Charles Montgomery called The River Bones a “fascinating journey through a landscape thick with tragedy, rot, mystery and searing beauty;” the book was recently shortlisted for the Edna Staebler Award for Creative Nonfiction.

Q: What led you from biology to writing?

A: When I was 23 years old, I lived the dream of many aspiring animal behaviourists – I spent a year studying wild troops of capuchin monkeys deep inside the Surinamese rainforest, just north of the Amazon basin. And funnily enough, it was while I was there that I decided science wasn’t for me. I quickly grew tired of reduced the monkeys’ actions down to verifiable data points, of learning the Latin names of trees. I wanted to find a way to capture the whole of my experiences, not just those that I was being paid to collect. I had always been a scribbler, so I started scribbling. And soon I found myself sitting in the middle of the jungle writing character sketches instead of doing group-scans.

Q: What inspired you to write The Riverbones?

A: After my year in Suriname I returned to Canada. But the country stayed with me. I became wholly obsessed with it, mostly because no one else had heard of the place. And then, five years later, I was given the opportunity to go back. I didn’t think twice. I spent the next five months traveling the country, and about halfway through my travels, I knew I had a book to write.

Q: What draws you to creative nonfiction as a writer ? What distinguishes this genre, for you?

A: One of my biggest complaints about science was that the practice of it removed the mystery and magic from lived experience. And it is precisely these things that literary non-fiction gives back to lived experience. The old saying that “truth is stranger than fiction” is arguable, I guess, but one thing’s for sure: truth is more important than fiction. To everyday people, I mean. To people mired in their lives. To people triumphing, or struggling. True stories capture our hearts and minds in ways fiction can’t. I won’t try to unpack this comment here, but it’s what I feel and believe. And so, what better world to toil in as a writer?

Q: What was the biggest challenge you encountered in completing the book?

A: Fear and anxiety. Fear comes first. You think, there is no way I can do this in the time allotted. There is no way I will succeed. And once you get over this fear, anxiety arrives. It’s like fear’s little brother. It stops you from sleeping (the best thing about fear is that it is exhausting). It stops you from working. And again, you wonder if you will ever succeed. I am writing my second book now, and have just got over the fear and am wholly ensconced in the anxiety. One down, one to go.

Q: What was the greatest reward?

A: Hearing from Surinamese people. Hearing the pride so many of them expressed about their little country.

Q: The tradition of travel writing goes back at least to Marco Polo. Were you conscious of that long tradition as you wrote? How do you think the genre has changed and developed? In what directions do you see it heading?

A: Yes, I was very conscious of this tradition, and how it’s changing, as I wrote this book. I don’t believe it’s possible anymore to go someplace interesting, write a book about that place and the people who live there, and not engage with the issues, politics, histories and injustices that exist there. The time is long gone when a well-pocketed Englishman could head off into the great unknown with a rucksack and pair of bad shoes and come back with a bestselling book. So much travel writing is set in parts of the planet where incredible injustice and hardship is lived on a daily basis. To not engage with these issues, and to decline the opportunity to become a voice for those who simply don’t have one, is to miss the point of international travel, in my view.

Q: Who are some of your favourite travel writers, and why?

A: I love Peter Mattheissen because of how he combines tough travel, spiritual enlightenment and science all in one. I love Ryszard Kapuscinski because of his courage, his prose, his geopolitical timing, his reporting, his art, and because he was the “Translator of the World.” I love Bruce Chatwin because he was a brilliantly flawed human being.

Q: What books might you recommend to aspiring writers, and why?

A: The Snow Leopard (Mattheissen) because it’s beautiful.

The Soccer War (Kapuscinski) because it’s the perfect combination of journalism and art.

Maps and Dreams (Hugh Brody) because it teaches the value of complete immersion in one’s subject matter.

Q: What are you reading now?

A: I am reading everything there is to read about chimpanzees, as research for my next project. My next book is not a travel book, although it is a pretty wild adventure. I recently moved into an animal sanctuary just outside Montreal where thirteen chimpanzees have been retired after spending decades in an American research lab. The book will be out Spring, 2011, and will be titled, simply, Thirteen Chimpanzees.

Andrew Westoll is an award-winning journalist and author based in Toronto. A former biologist and primatologist, Andrew received an MFA from the University of British Columbia and now works as a freelance writer specializing in travel, science, conservation and culture. He publishes with many of Canada’s premier venues, such as The Walrus, explore, Outpost and the Globe and Mail, and is a past Fellow of the Literary Journalism Program at the Banff Centre for the Arts. Andrew won gold at the 2007 National Magazine Awards for his first feature article, a story that grew into The Riverbones, which is his first book and is published by McClelland and Stewart in Toronto. He is also a launch member of Speakers House Canada, a speaking engagement agency recently founded by Random House of Canada. His website is here.

An Interview with Russell Wangersky

Wednesday, November 4th, 2009

I’ve been an admiring (and sometimes envious) reader of Russell Wangersky’s prose since I first encountered it almost a decade ago in the lit journals, where we frequently competed in the same contests. Burning Down the House, the precise and gripping memoir that Russell based on some of those early essays, is now in the running for some much bigger prizes, such as the BC Award for Canadian Nonfiction, Canada’s richest CNF prize (which it won earlier this year), and the Edna Staebler Award, for which it was recently nominated. Russell began as a journalist and is now an accomplished writer in multiple genres, including short fiction and the essay; his novel is forthcoming in 2010.

Q: You’ve written and continue to write in multiple genres – journalism, creative nonfiction, and fiction. What is the particular appeal of creative nonfiction to you? What draws you to this genre as a writer?

A: Creative non-fiction is both enticing and frustrating – enticing, because of the fun of moving through experience and working elements into a narrative line, but frustrating because stories don’t draw to the strong peak they might otherwise reach in fiction. You’re both helped and hamstrung by the truth. You always know where you’re going – without always knowing how you’re getting there – but you don’t always know if the story will be strong enough. Until, finally (hopefully), you know that it is. I’ve actually been drawn to creative non-fiction by my particular work in journalism – I write columns that are about whatever I want – they draw on memory, my personal experience, and sometimes the experience of others, and often involve drawing up remembered experiences to illustrate or highlight new events. My own voice is also the easiest voice – you hardly ever put a foot wrong.

Q: What draws you to the genre as a reader? Who are some of your favourite writers of creative nonfiction or memoir, and what appeals to you in their work?

A: As a reader, I like the fact that you feel like your footing is always safe. I guess that’s a little facile – but what I mean is that the footing is already tested somehow by experience. The other thing I particularly like is the consistency of voice by the writer. I’ve been reading creative non-fiction for years, since before it was even called creative non-fiction, and many stick out in my memory, new and old.

Report from Engine Company 82, by Dennis Smith, The Making of a Surgeon by William Nolen, and The Glass Castle, by Jeannette Walls, are all favourites from one point in my life or another, and that’s only the tip of the iceberg. What I like about those three in particular is the combination of extraordinary events told retrospectively, so that there’s not only the immediate drama of the circumstances, but also the weight of how the experiences have changed the writers.

Q: Do you find it difficult or stimulating (or both) to move between different genres? Have you ever used the same material and put it to different uses in fiction and creative nonfiction?

A: I like moving between the two, because, strangely, my fiction almost always begins in non-fiction. Almost all of my fiction work depends on hearing or seeing something, and imagining how things would turn out if that single instance was the anchor for a whole life. I have used non-fiction experiences in fiction for sure – a new collection of short stories will have two firefighting stories, stories that spring out of particular experiences I had while fighting fires.

Q: During our panel discussion at the Vancouver International Writers’ Festival in 2008,  you mentioned that Burning Down the House grew, in part, out of individual essays that you had written. Can you tell us something about the process of turning those essays into a full-length narrative? What was gained – or lost – in the process?

A: What was lost was the cohesive strength of the shorter essays: I broke them up and moved them around in Burning Down the House, and while they were still strong and significant for the narrative, I think they lost something of the jewel-like precision they had in the beginning. I think essays are like short stories – they gain part of their particular strength because the whole concept of them is defined enough that you can hold the whole package in your head at one sitting. I can work on the beginning of an essay, strengthening its development towards the end, with almost every word in my head. I think it makes essay tighter and more singular – and more effective. It’s much harder to hold the same tension throughout a whole book, and I’m not even sure readers want something pulled that tight for say, 64,000 words or more.

Q: What was the biggest challenge you encountered in writing Burning Down the House?

A: Nightmares. I thought that writing the book would be cathartic. It wasn’t – it dredged up everything right to the front of my brain again, and kept it live. I was tormented by nightmares all through the writing, and still am – especially on tour or at readings, where people inevitable come up to me to share their own accident or fires experiences.

Q: What was the greatest reward?

A:  I’ve heard from a handful of emergency services personnel who have found the book to be a great help overcoming their own demons – at least four are back to work, regularly in contact with me, and I feel (hopefully,perhaps) that I’ve had a part in that.

Q: What might you tell aspiring writers to read, and why?

A: Read lots. Read every genre you can. One of the best things about journalism is that I exercise my reading and writing muscles every single day. It’s like a foreign language – you have to use words until they are all second nature.

Q: What are you reading now?

A: Half-broke Horses by Jeannette Walls, Last Night in Twisted River by John Irving, Galore by Michael Crummey and Arnaldur Indridason’s Jar City.

Russell Wangersky was born in Connecticut but came to Halifax as a young child. He has worked as a journalist since the mid-80s, at the St. John’s Sunday Express, CBC Television, and finally, at The Telegram, where he became editor in 2002. For many years he also served as a volunteer fire-fighter. His book of short stories, The Hour of Bad Decisions, was included in both the Globe and Mail and Toronto Star’s lists of Best Books of 2006, and garnered an impressive string of awards nominations. Burning Down the House is his most recent book.